Koh Kong or Hat Lek border to Siem Reap

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Anyone done this route before? Direct from Hat Lek border to Siem reap without going to Phnom Penh first.


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Anyone done this route before? Direct from Hat Lek border to Siem reap without going to Phnom Penh first.


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I did half of the new chinese road from Ko kong over the cardamom mountains this year.
Wasnt far from there up to Veal Vang then Pursat, and on to Battambang, quite easy if the weather is ok,
 

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Is there a lot of twisties? From Google map, it looks ok. Not as bad as Mae Hong Son.

Any refuel station along the way?

No river crossing needed I presume.


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Night rider, this is very precious information for me. Thank you. You mentioned in your blog that time will not be save. Means that although distance are shorter, it will take ask much time to reached. Am I correct? This is what I found on Google map of the route they plot for me to take.
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That Google route is the old road, you dont want to do that unless you want hardcore adventure
Heres a pic of the New Chinese road, and the old road, from Ko Kong to Pramoy
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There are petrol drums at N11.98853° E103.15220°
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Great trip report, nightrider
 

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The red route is the new Chinese road?

This picture is from your GPS? Garmin?

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You mentioned in your blog that time will not be save. Means that although distance are shorter, it will take ask much time to reached. Am I correct? This is what I found on Google map of the route they plot for me to take.
Correct. Part of the way are dirt tracks so your average speed will be low compared to the main roads via Phnom Penh. The conditions can have changed alot since I was there however. Google map does not have the new roads, use OSM if you can.
 

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The red part is where the new chinese road leaves the old road and joins it again. This is from my gps.
We did the 67ish km back from the gas stop in under 2hours, probably would have been under1.5hrs if we hadnt stopped
 

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Alexuk and night rider. Thanks. Will check out my map source later.


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when u cross the border make sure your bikes green book has recent stamp in it for tax/insurance or your bike will not be allowed out by the Thais and fill up on thai side with fuel as sometimes they are closed or out of fuel on cambo side
 

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Mine is a Singapore registered bike. Will have the necessary documents ready.. Plenty of copies too. Thanks for the reminder.


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Alexuk, care to share your Maps for the GPS? Mine shows lots of blanks space.

Nightrider, can you direct me to the OSM? Mine also give me a blank "look". If you all don't mind.

Below is how mine looks like...[emoji29][emoji29][emoji29]

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Alexuk, care to share your Maps for the GPS? Mine shows lots of blanks space.

Nightrider, can you direct me to the OSM? Mine also give me a blank "look". If you all don't mind.

Maybe try this OSM link. Just select the tiles you'd like and they'll email them to you. As a gmapsupp and a map to load in Mapsourse or Basecamp, Windows or Mac.
I would suggest using the Routable Bicycle [Openfietsmap Lite] option.

Free worldwide Garmin maps from OpenStreetMap

I'd like to send in my local tracks to add to OSM but every time I try to it's rejected. Maybe some one could start a thread on how to do this. I failed.
 

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I'd like to send in my local tracks to add to OSM but every time I try to it's rejected. Maybe some one could start a thread on how to do this. I failed.
Post a failing track here and I will try to upload it.
 

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Thanks Nightrider. Wil check it out later.

Fantic, I did that. Shows the blank area.


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Ok. Let me go figure it out these few days...


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I regretted taken this road... Balls drop... If you guys were to take this rod again, around 80km from Koh Kong. You happened to see a HnB Journey top box on the road side... It's mine....
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Mine dropped on the road so still can recover. I still got my panniers on so just re pack everything. Lucky the top box got nothing much.

I really wonder how you guys can go by that way??? Really a case of over estimating oneself and under estimating the road...

Everyone I talked to was amaze how is it possible that I came by that way... I am still feeling shocked that I survive that road...


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But all worth it when I see this...

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Mine dropped on the road so still can recover. I still got my panniers on so just re pack everything. Lucky the top box got nothing much.

I really wonder how you guys can go by that way??? Really a case of over estimating oneself and under estimating the road...

Everyone I talked to was amaze how is it possible that I came by that way... I am still feeling shocked that I survive that road...


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Google's estimated 6.5 hours from Koh Kong to Siem Reap was a bit optimistic, wasn't it?
 

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I am a weak rider... I took 12 hours to reached Pursat... I will never ever try this again... Never!!!!!

I have change my traveling plans too. Suppose to go to Laos via Strung Treng border but decide that it will be too "risky" for me. So now I will just exit to Thailand via Poipet then make my way up to Huay xia to Boten... I don't think I can take another "surprise"... Moral is low now and guts busted!!


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So you skipped short cuts from Pramaoy to Battambang?

If you take 65 and 64 to Preah Vihear city you have a nice paved road the whole way without any surprises. You will pass Beoung Mealea and also Cambodia's "pyramid" on the way. Stay over night in Preah Vihear City, a boring place but with many guesthouses. Next day you ride to Laos via Stung Treng. I do not know if the bridge is open over Mekong but if it isn't there is a ferry. The road from Preah Vihear City to Stung Treng should be paved by now, if parts are unpaved it is good dirt ready to be paved, Stung Treng is a dirty place so aviod staying there over night, better to push on and cross the border into Laos and stay in a guesthouse there.
 

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You are actualy a pretty strong rider if you made it from Koh Kong to Pursat via Pramoy in one day on a road bike.

You will like the 65 and 64 to Preah Vihear City.
 

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NR... I got no choice. There's no turning back... 12 hours covering less than 300km is a big shock to me. When I went from Mae Sot to Mae Hong Son. 14 hours but at least I covered 500km with 1 hour lunch break in between. This time round is all the way straight to Pursat. Stopping to ask direction and refuel only... Keep telling myself to push on... Keep praying that there are no oncoming traffic... I was planning to go to Laos via Veun Kham from Siem Reap straight. But I don't want to experience the surprise over at Laos side. Moreover, I am riding alone. Don't want to experience the helplessness feeling I had previously again. Just say I chicken out.... Maybe the next time when I have company but I know the next time will never come.. Cause I riding pals are not so willing to sacrifice so much of their time on riding like me...

I vow to myself, that I will try to travel with company if I were to go to any unfamiliar area in future...


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The road is paved and good in Laos all the way to China as long as you stick to the main road.

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which was the worst part of the road up from ko kong for you?
I'd head on up thru cambodia to laos.
 

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NR, too late. I chicken out... Now at Lop Buri... Maybe if I find company then I will try again. Which means 1 year of being a good boy to save all my leaves...

Btw, met 1 caucasian riding on a XR on the way to Au Sen. All thanks to him for guiding me in the right direction. Without him I will not be able to reached Pursat before dusk. If you happened to be here.. Thank you fellow rider..

Alexuk, I think is 15km from Koh Kong the hell started for me all the way for 200km... You might want to travel the more common route which is from Koh Kong to Phnom Penh... Then to Laos. The rest might be able to advise you better...


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Alexuk, unless your bike belongs to the dirt bike type then you can try this route... But you need strong will to complete the route I took IMO...


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Any fotos?
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we wanted to get back before dark, and it was raining so didnt stop for more pictures
 

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Some on this phone.. Others in the cam.. Not yet uploaded... Currently on the way to Laos... These photo you should have seen or passed by the place... Further up after the dam, if it rains... Good game....ImageUploadedByTapatalk1419169179.317050.jpgImageUploadedByTapatalk1419169214.250612.jpgImageUploadedByTapatalk1419169247.017510.jpg

The last picture is my box. Should still be around these few days...

The rest of the journey I have no time to take any photos as I am really concentrating of maneuvering my bike... Other photos mostly shows my bike when it is dropped. That's when I "have time" to take photos...

Just be really careful when you go by this route. There is a home stay at Ou Sen. So you might want to consider. Thought I don't think will stay there... So I pushed on. If you are on a lighter bike then should not be an issue. The XR rider I met, started the journey later than me. He had time for lunch.. Stop to chit chat and still able to go ahead of me. So I guess the kind of bike plays a big part in that region...


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Hi Fantic,
I intend going to Siam Reap from CM, via Trat, in a few months. And I will be using OSM, so if you have any tracks that are not on the OSM now, I will be happy to add them for you.
The exercise will also increase my knowledge of the area.
Russ.
 

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I will post my tracks when I get back home... Still on my trip... Will be in map source format. Is GBX format ok? I think that's the file...


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My track of the route mentioned.

Attached is the route I took from Koh Kong via Ou Sen to Pusat... Can be view in mapsouce. Thank you all for the help.
 

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OSM only accepts GPX format. If you use BaseCamp you can export the track in GPX format and then upload it to OSM.
 
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