XR400 rocket

KMA

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I test rode this bike yesterday and the thing is f'n fassssst. I then test rode two XR250's (2004 & 1998) & both felt pretty gutless after riding the 400. The xr400 is a 1998 in pretty decent shape with invoice only. No working lights (except headlight) or speedo but a baja kit could easily be installed. I had a friend back in the states that loved loved these bikes and always owned a couple at time. He is asking around 120k for the xr400. My feeling is that this is a great bike for wide open desert riding but not 100% sure for around here. Any opinions or info is appreciated
 

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It's quite a bike for offroad around here Jim, in the wet season may be too much as it has a lot more torque than the 250. Power is not massive, but the torque can catch you out.

The suspension on the 400's always seems to be way harder than on the 250's too which is not a good thing either.

Depends what type of riding you want to do but if its the typical N Thailand enduro stuff I would go for the 250. Best bike for N Thailand for sure!
 
It's quite a bike for offroad around here Jim, in the wet season may be too much as it has a lot more torque than the 250. Power is not massive, but the torque can catch you out.

The suspension on the 400's always seems to be way harder than on the 250's too which is not a good thing either.

Depends what type of riding you want to do but if its the typical N Thailand enduro stuff I would go for the 250. Best bike for N Thailand for sure!
Yeah the thing was a torque monster. I started feathering the clutch to see if I could get it to not be so jumpy. Any thoughts on the price?
 
Fast fun and reliable this once mighty motocross racer a bit anachronistic in today's world of KMS, CRF's, WR"s.
Makes a great Reliable trail riding bike.
A few add ons from XR's only like shock work and small motor adjustments make this a long distance trail bike that can wisk you along for 12 hours or more a day. Unlike the high revving vibration machines of more modern bikes this is a REAL THUMPER that soothes as you ride, When the KTM rider is numb from the knees to neck the XR4 will glide past the resting race bikes, in search of more trails.
Out of production since 2003 these bikes are now gaining in value due to the low availability of good clean stock.
Here in Laos a mint bike will fetch over 5 Grand, almost the cost of a new one when they were introduced.
However Stateside I just picked this 2003 up for a song, prices range from 1,200 to 3,500 depending on witch model.
Of course in the US only the R model was imported therefor not possible to register or ride on the road. Which really makes these bikes a bargain in the states. The one in the picture came with the original owners manual and had the original tires on the rims!
Singapore and Cambodia also have quite a few of these on the roads. However you will find these are mostly higher mileage bikes, which means and air cooled engine running in a hot climate. Better order a Wiseco piston kit when you pick up one from these countries.
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If you find one of these while driving around, well just take it apart and put the bits in the trunk. Like I did when running down the East Coast of the States, near Boston Massachusetts. TheY can be found on Craigslist on your I phone, and the Google maps will lead you to the address. If you happen to have a wad of green backs with you? I found this bike and made the purchase in a matter of hours such a good deal!:D
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So buy only clean stock and low mileage bikes. Is my recommendation.
They motorcross racer whom I bought this bike from has 2 CRFs which he rebuilds every 60 hours of running time! Well that is not surprising for motors designed on formula one technology. My experience is the XR4 will go initially up to 70K before the first rebuild, I have 2 motors running at over 200 k on them, I am also the proud owner of a mountain of cam chains, the least reliable part of the motor. In all the years of piloting this trusty steed with only one breakdown that had me sitting in the bak of a Hyundai porter, The result of a worn out stator.

The beast will keep on running while drinking huge amounts of oil if you happen to miss that overhaul before a long trip. The oil control rings will go first and fast, leaving plenty of blue smoke in your wake. I have limped home burning a liter of oil ever 100ks and still running!! A new piston and rings and off again in a matter of hours! For minimal outlay < Around $200> or just throw in a set of rings on the side of the road for about >$50< I did this at a tire shop in Luang Namtha in a few hours> made great friends and sipped some sweet Lao Kao as well.

Parts are easily available from the many Microfiche parts stores on line (stateside). Like any bike parts nothing is cheap. Which leads one back the golden rule of used buying. Condition Condition Condition.
That great asking price,.. can seem pretty expensive when She needs 2 Grand in parts plus labor to get her into the condition that you want!

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Midnite Mapper
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Great advice from someone that eats up the km's, thanks Don.
Yep really great advice from Don, thanks much. I did make the mistake of looking at craigslist where I found a number of Xrr's for a song(1200-3000usd), shouldn't compare prices stateside to distorted prices here. But as Don says condition condition condition and this bike seems more in line with 90k, not 120k so I will try and negotiate
 
I see some advertised in Australia with electric start whereas all the 400's I've seen in Cambodia don't have that.
Whats the story there. Was there a specific electric start version that wasn't sold in the US or Japan ?
or was it only the XR400M supermoto model with ES ?
 
I have seen those bikes around the motor is out of the TRX 400

2012 Honda TRX™ 400X Reviews, Prices, and Specs

In addition the frame and suspension are no were near the XR400, there is a small difference in the rake angle that makes this bike more sable at high speed and less nimble on the trail.
Noticeably the exhaust pipes are much smaller diameter and the engine is tuned for higher rpm running, no oil cooler on the stemhead, however it does have upside down forks.
Possibly a decent mo-tard bike but this model is just not dirt oriented. looks nice...
 
Not a good choice for the trails around CM,IMO.
 
I have seen those bikes around the motor is out of the TRX 400

2012 Honda TRX&#8482; 400X Reviews, Prices, and Specs

In addition the frame and suspension are no were near the XR400, there is a small difference in the rake angle that makes this bike more sable at high speed and less nimble on the trail.
Noticeably the exhaust pipes are much smaller diameter and the engine is tuned for higher rpm running, no oil cooler on the stemhead, however it does have upside down forks.
Possibly a decent mo-tard bike but this model is just not dirt oriented. looks nice...

MM
Thx for that info.
Funny enough I saw one this arvo down at the beach. Australian lad imported it. Dirt rims fitted.
XR400M LH side.jpgXR400M RH side.jpg
 
That bike must be a Honda XR400R with an IMS after market tank on it, if it was a later model, after 2006 it should have e-start and probably no oil cooler, until 2003 they had telescope forks after that they changed to inverted forks, I think the tank fools one into thinking it's a later model, but it look more like the 1997-2003 model to me. By the carb you should be able to tell which model. I can only recommend this bike for riding around here, it might be a little heavy on the single treks but overall great bike. I have the XR 250 and sometimes I find it underpowered compared to my 600, but the 600 is a heavy monster to throw around. I think the 400 is the perfect deal.
 
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