Why I will never buy another sleeping bag - Quilts

KTMphil

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Quilts are a relatively new concept for lightweight camping, most of us for years have used sleeping bags which work just fine, so its a details thing in a way.


This is why to save weight, quilts are interesting?

The insulation "blanket" around you, that keeps you warm, when you are camping, comes from the air trapped in the pockets created by the loft in the blanket. The underside of a sleeping bag is crushed when you're sleeping so adds a very small warmth value to your setup. IE you're wasting all that weight of the sleeping bag on the underside as its not keeping you warm (no lofting to trap air as you are crushing it).


EVERYONE camping, carries some kind of sleeping pad (many for hammock camping) as they add immense comfort and shield you from the cold ground. So from the underside, you already have lots of insulation from the cold, especially if you use a quality mattress & dont need the underside of the sleeping bag.

Below shows a quilt setup on a sleeping pad. All the weight of the underside of the sleeping bag can be added to increase the insulation on the topside.


Bikepacking.com


Many quilts have the arrangement to keep them in place with elastic, I personally dont like this especially in Asia with the temperature variation.

Bikepacking.com




When you go to sleep its normally hot, the nice thing about a quilt is you can pull it down by your knees, as the temperature drops during the night, its then easy to pull up over your body.



 
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KTMphil

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Most quilts have a "foot box" at the bottom, so you dont lose orientation of the quilt while sleeping and it stays in place

Here the quilt is inverted so you can see the foot box





Down v's Synthetic insulation?

Immediately you think synthetic because it will dry quick right? For weight, natural down has a much better R value (insulation warmth) than synthetic and the lofting lasts twice as long. With quality waterproof bags easily available, its pretty easy to keep your quilt dry, so for me natural down would be the way to go.




Best quilts available:
(From cleverhiker.com)



Below is a link to ourdoorgearlabs.com reviews:

http://www.outdoorgearlab.com/Ultralight-Sleeping-Bag-Reviews



ENLIGHTENED EQUIPMENT REVELATION

There's no other sleeping bag or quilt that beats the warmth, weight, functionality, and affordability of the Enlightened Equipment Revelation. The Revelation can be left open like a blanket on warm nights or be cinched up tight when the temperature drops. It attaches directly to your sleeping pad to create a toasty den, even if you tend to squirm around during the night. If you’re like me and you dislike feeling constricted in tight-fitting mummy bags, you'll love the freedom of the Revelation. See my full review here.
The Revelation Quilt is my top pick sleeping bag/quilt. For more of my top picks, check out theCleverHiker Top Picks page.







KATABATIC GEAR FLEX 22

WEIGHT: 1lb 6oz
TEMP: 22F


Katabatic Gear is known for quality products and attention to detail. The Flex 22 is no exception. Just like the EE Revelation, this quilt has a flexible (and fantastic) design. Both quilts work very similarly, but the Flex 22 has a couple of nice upgrades. The most notable is that the Flex 22 has a better attachment system for connecting to sleeping pads. The downside is that this quilt costs significantly more than the Revelation.












 
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KTMphil

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Re: Why I will never by another sleeping bag - Quilts

Some quilts available in the table below:


BrandModelWeight (g)ShapeQuilt
NunatakArc A.T.2403/4 LengthYes
YetiPassion One265MummyNo
NunatakArc Edge326MummyYes
ZPacksZPacks 40335MummyYes
PHD DesignsMinim Ultra345MummyNo
enLIGHTened EquipmentEpiphany 1 inch Slim354MummyYes
Terra NovaLaser 300356MummyNo
Mountain Laurel DesignsSpirit Quilt 48368MummyYes
SiveraVencha370MummyYes
enLIGHTened EquipmentEpiphany 1 inch383MummyYes
Mont BellU.L. Spiral Hugger Thermal Sheet391Semi Rec.No
PHD DesignsPiqolo395MummyNo
NunatakAkula Half Bag3961/2 LengthNo
ZPacksZPacks 30408MummyYes
KatabaticChisos414MummyYes
YetiVIB 150415MummyNo
enLIGHTened EquipmentEpiphany 1.5 inch Slim418MummyYes
Jacks R BetterShenandoah425Rec.Yes
Western MountaineeringTamarak4253/4 LengthNo
CumulusXlite 200430MummyNo
SiveraTower 3436MummyNo
Jacks R BetterStealth439MummyYes
Mountain HardwearMtn Speed 32446MummyNo
VaudeIce Peak 150450MummyNo
RABInfinity SL450MummyYes
NunatakArc Ghost453MummyYes
NunatakSubAlpinist453MummyNo
enLIGHTened EquipmentEpiphany 1.5 inch453MummyYes
Mont BellU.L. Super Spiral Hugger #5453MummyNo
NunatakCatabatic453MummyNo
Western MountaineeringHighLite455MummyNo


PHD Designs
Minimus
465
Mummy
No
Yeti
Passion Three
465
Mummy
No
enLIGHTened Equipment
Revelation 1 inch
468
Mummy
Yes
RAB
Module
470
Mummy
Yes
Nunatak
Arc Specialist
481
Mummy
Yes
Feathered Friends
Vireo
481
3/4 Length
No
enLIGHTened Equipment
Epiphany 2 inch Slim
482
Mummy
Yes
ZPacks
ZPacks 20
485
Mummy
Yes
Katabatic
Palisade
496
Mummy
Yes
Macpac
Escapade 150
500
Semi Rec.
No
One Planet
Stowaway 3
500
Mummy
No
enLIGHTened Equipment
Epiphany-APEX 35
503
Mummy
Yes
Big Agnes
Pitchpine SL
510
Mummy
No
Marmot
Plasma 40
510
Mummy
No
enLIGHTened Equipment
Epiphany 2 inch
524
Mummy
Yes
Western Mountaineering
SummerLite
525
Mummy
No
Mont Bell
U.L. Spiral Hugger #3
538
Mummy
No
Mountain Laurel Designs
Spirit Quilt 38
538
Mummy
Yes
Warbonnet Outdoors
Mamba 3-Season
539
Mummy
Yes
enLIGHTened Equipment
Revelation 1.5 inch
545
Mummy
Yes
Mountain Hardwear
Phantom 45
550
Mummy
No
GoLite
(W) Adrenaline 1+ Season
550
Mummy
No
GoLite
UltraLite 1+ Season
550
Mummy
Yes
Husky
Mikro
550
Mummy
No
Vaude
Featherlight 200
550
Mummy
No
GoLite
(W) UltraLite 1+ Season
550
Mummy
Yes
GoLite
Adrenaline 1+ Season
550
Mummy
No
Sea to Summit
Micro Mc II
550
Mummy
No
ZPacks
ZPacks 10
561
Mummy
Yes
Jacks R Better
Hudson River
566
Rec.
Yes
Terra Nova
Laser 600
580
Mummy
No
enLIGHTened Equipment
Revelation 2 inch
581
Mummy
Yes
Therm-A-Rest
Alpine
590
Rec.
Yes



Western Mountaineering
Caribou MF
595
Mummy
No
35
Yes
Down
Best Price
Jacks R Better
No Sniveller
595
Mummy
Yes
25
No
Down
RAB
Neutrino 200
595
Mummy
No
35
Yes
Down
Best Price
Katabatic
Alsek
595
Mummy
Yes
22
No
Down
Best Price
enLIGHTened Equipment
Prodigy 35
595
Mummy
Yes
35
No
Synthetic
Best Price
Nunatak
Arc Alpinist
595
Mummy
Yes
20
No
Down
Best Price
Mont Bell
Burrow Bag Thermal Sheet
595
Semi Rec.
No
50
No
Synthetic
Best Price
Mont Bell
U.L. Super Spiral Hugger #3
595
Mummy
No
30
Yes
Down
Best Price
One Planet
Stowaway 0
600
Mummy
No
32
No
Down
Best Price
Terra Nova
Voyager 600
600
Mummy
No
50
Yes
Down
Best Price
Vaude
Sioux UL 100
600
Mummy
No
55
Yes
Synthetic
Best Price
enLIGHTened Equipment
Epiphany 3 inch Slim
609
Mummy
Yes
0
No
Down
Best Price
Marmot
Atom
610
Mummy
No
40
Yes
Down
Best Price
Jacks R Better
Sierra Sniveller
623
Mummy
Yes
25
No
Down
Best Price
Therm-A-Rest
Haven
624
Mummy
Yes
20
Yes
Down
Best Price
Yeti
VIB 250
630
Mummy
No
41
Yes
Down
Best Price
Cumulus
LiteLine 300
630
Mummy
No
28
Yes
Down
Best Price
GoLite
(W) RS 1+ Season
635
Mummy
Yes
40
No
Synthetic
GoLite
RS 1+ Season
635
Mummy
Yes
40
No
Synthetic
Best Price
One Planet
Cocoon 0
640
Mummy
No
32
Yes
Down
Best Price
Mountain Hardwear
Phantom 32
640
Mummy
No
32
Yes
Down
Best Price
Marmot
Plasma 30
644
Mummy
No
30
Yes
Down
Best Price
RAB
Infinity 300
650
Mummy
No
28
Yes
Down
Best Price
Mountain Laurel Designs
Spirit Quilt 28
652
Mummy
Yes
28
No
Synthetic
Best Price
Feathered Friends
Merlin
652
Mummy
No
30
Yes
Down
Best Price
Nunatak
Alpinist
652
Mummy
No
20
Yes
Down
Best Price
Sierra Designs
Wicked Light 45
652
Semi Rec.
No
45
No
Down
Best Price
Stoic
Somnus 30
652
Mummy
No
30
Yes
Down
Best Price
Nunatak
Catabatic SL
652
Mummy
No
20
Yes
Down
Best Price
Sierra Designs
Wicked Hot 45
652
Semi Rec.
No
45
 

KTMphil

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Re: Why I will never by another sleeping bag - Quilts

Under 500g the Zpacks quilt , from USD$ 335. Its kind of a sleeping bag, but so light, with enough down/ insulation, it can be used as a quilt. Included it because they make awesome products (check out their tents!)


http://www.zpacks.com/quilts/sleepingbag.shtml

Available in 40, 30, 20 and 10 degree Fahrenheit temperature ratings (5C, -1C, -7C, and -12C), in a plethora of sizes. Each bag is custom built to your specifications.


  • Each baffle is overstuffed with 30% more 900 Fill Power Premium Goose Down than is necessary for maximum loft to account for any future down compression. Down bags can last for decades with care!



The bags are made with premium 900 fill power white European goose down and some of the lightest nylon shell materials available.








Their 2 man quilt/ bag, rated down to - 1C only weighs 560 grams!!

http://www.zpacks.com/quilts/twinquilt.shtml



 

CraigBKK

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Re: Why I will never by another sleeping bag - Quilts

I'm also a quilt/blanket user (THERMAREST AURIGA) and recommend them for lightweight camping where you need something to keep you warm in the early hours when temps. drop but also need to regulate heat build-up quickly and conveniently.

[video=youtube_share;P6hX0FmI8vU]http://youtu.be/P6hX0FmI8vU[/video]
 
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