Chiang Rai area - Lam Nam Kok National Park tracks

[crs]

Been exploring and mapping as I go.

Some of the google & streetMaps tracks are no good/wrong (eg. TomTom Thailand includes tracks that no bikes use and are very wild - or just not there), and I've found new tracks...

Using Facebook & MotionX to store/display/share this - friends can view the maps. Send a request if you want to see.

(Don't really want these GPS tracks available too freely as some might find bits tricky - and could do with more checking and info' supplying.)

Still loads to ride - plenty of excellent tracks.

http://facebook.com/c0h0r0i0s

 

[crs]

Just tried doing a bit of editing on OSM... I don't get the sources (not what you put up of mine, Russ) for this area, e.g. you've got stuff that's hardly a goat track / bunny run looking like 4x4 & car tracks (and vici versa) and stuff that really just isn't there - as part of the same track. I'm going to stop before I start or I'll end up scrapping lots and doing it new - which would take too much time for me right now. Just hope people don't go putting too much trust in these routes when planning or actually trying to get somewhere. Google, Bing, Apple maps have even more obscure 'fairy trails' on them...

EDIT: Guess it comes from copying over from Bing maps, Goggle maps, etc - where small routes aren't categorised and some must have just been sourced from locals phones while they are walking and moving about... (Can't see where else it could have come from - unless it's people guessing from aerial/satellite pics.) Which means some pretty random stuff gets added. Also, the use / routes of the tracks gets changed quite often in these parts.

EDIT2: Weird, when you zoom in and out the track mark pattern - which I thought matched up to different types of track/road - changes. Zoom out and it looks like a bit is a bigger road, zoom in and it all looks the same... Oh well... On the whole it's mapped OK - and def' worth having. I will have another go at it when I've got more time maybe... Thing is, I'd feel bad hacking up and removing others work - and maybe even those bit's i'd think to take off might be of use to intrepid mule riders - or tarzan.

 

[crs]

Had a hack at it.

OpenStreetMap

 

[bsacbob]

Yep that works a treat.

 

[Nightrider70]

EDIT2: Weird, when you zoom in and out the track mark pattern - which I thought matched up to different types of track/road - changes. Zoom out and it looks like a bit is a bigger road, zoom in and it all looks the same...

The main OSM webpage updates a bit slow on the zoomed out layers. Therefore after changes you see the updated map when zoomed in but the older version when you zoom out. Observe this behavior is only on the webpage, if you download a map it will be updated on all zoomlevels.

 

[Nightrider70]

EDIT: Guess it comes from copying over from Bing maps, Goggle maps, etc - where small routes aren't categorised and some must have just been sourced from locals phones while they are walking and moving about... (Can't see where else it could have come from - unless it's people guessing from aerial/satellite pics.) Which means some pretty random stuff gets added. Also, the use / routes of the tracks gets changed quite often in these parts.

It is illegal to copy from Google maps or Bing maps. If you think some road or track came from Google maps or Bing maps you should contact the user who added it.

 

[crs]

^ Maybe Google Maps, but you can use Bing as a background in the editor - so can't see how tracing from that (you have to trace your own gps, after all) is illegal. I'm sure if it was illegal to trace from the background Bing map, they wouldn't incorporate it. (But then, this is just my reasoning - might be wrong!)

 

[crs]

Ta for the tip on the updating delay - was guessing it might be something like that.

 

[Nightrider70]

^ Maybe Google Maps, but you can use Bing as a background in the editor - so can't see how tracing from that (you have to trace your own gps, after all) is illegal. I'm sure if it was illegal to trace from the background Bing map, they wouldn't incorporate it.

You can of course use the satellite images provide in OSM's editors. I thought you were talking about Bing maps.

 

[crs]

The Bing satellite images, yes. I was muddling them together just through association. I had thought, at 1st, that people maybe were copying from the tracks on Google Maps, Bing Maps, etc somehow - but now understand many OSM updaters use the Bing sat' images to trace from.

 

[Nightrider70]

Thanks for mapping. OSM sure needs mappers in SE Asia.