Multistrada ECU / Map

[johnnysneds]

A good mate is working for a well known race team and all started with this entry passes among other very special treats for the Red Bull MotoGP 2013 / Laguna Seca (July 2013).
Well, here we go once again... another great MotoGP race weekend.....

TB-would your good mate happen to work for Ducati and happen to have access to Multistrada race ECU's? (Just kiddin')

Out of interest are you running stock ECU/Map on your Multistrada?

 

[TB-Racing]

TB-would your good mate happen to work for Ducati and happen to have access to Multistrada race ECU's? (Just kid din')

YES at Ducati Corse Race Department for almost 30 years and NO to MTS ECU's, for your info ~ you can convert any regular MTS - ECU to a "Race" ECU, just need to re-program and have necessary changes done to the software.
USA / EU / AUS has companies that re-program Ducati ECU's and seen your post at the UK Ducati forum as well, hard to give comments without testing or actually hearing the bike and symptoms.
Yes, the ECU's are rather expensive and might be a good idea to get in touch with a wrecked somewhere overseas like EU / USA / AUS and get a usable ECU secondhand for special upgrades and programs.

Out of interest are you running stock ECU/Map on your Multistrada?

Actually, have three ECU's in total for my 2012 MTS-PP as they are just plug & play.
#1 = Normal / Regular stock one as the bike was delivered - keeping that one stock but have the regular Ducati factory updates done to the ECU (always handy for any mandatory vehicle check-ups and emission tests).
#2 = Special Race ECU for increased performance and some serious fun...
#3 = Special lets go absolute mental ECU with an awesome one of a kind performance program...

My MTS is parked up in the living room since Chinese New Year as I am travelling domestically and overseas and use other bikes in China and overseas in the last few month.
Doing a few upgrades to my MTS-PP as we speak right now and will be faster, louder and lighter once again... carbon / titanium ~ it's a disease but loving it....
Absolute in love with my MTS after owning 70+ bikes in my life and definitely will be a keeper for the family collection and gets shipped to Oz later on or sooner ~ who knows right now, did a few k's (been there ~ done that) of China biking since 1989....

 

[johnnysneds]

Yes I have a reputable contact in the UK who will re-program the ECU, disable O2, gear trims and exhaust valve and load a map onto it from a dyno'd bike with the same mods. This will allow me to fit a Power Commander and dyno the bike properly BUT I dont have access to a dyno!!

Have you had your bike dyno'd with each ECU?

199GBP to get my ECU re-programmed, I'm trying to establish/justify this, so some info regarding how each ECU/Mapping combination you own was set-up acquired would be greatly appreciated. There's so much differences between identical bikes, including injector flow rates (up to 8%), cam timing, cylinder pressure and throttle balance - for these reasons a good map for a one bike can be useless in another. Im willing to give a remap a go though, just want to hear from someone thats used a remapped ECU without being dyno'd, maybe they were just lucky.

Ill search for a used ECU to mess around with maps.



Great your in love with it as there's none of that loving' feeling with mine

I want mines to go like this...

 

[TB-Racing]

This will allow me to fit a Power Commander and dyno the bike properly BUT I dont have access to a dyno!!
Have you had your bike dyno'd with each ECU?

No dyno in China for bikes to my limited knowledge. Know of one for cars near Shanghai but wouldn't put my bike on that particular one....
Do not have a Powercomander, Fat-Ducs or Bazazz or whatever they call the add-ons nowadays installed.
Running a Termi (full length) TI muffler (end can) but have larger custom header pipes (the Termi header pipes sit u-used on the shelf).

how each ECU/Mapping combination you own was set-up acquired would be greatly appreciated.

Through a family contact in EU specialising in ECU tuning and software in general working with a few race teams.
The two re-programmed ECU were tested with Ducati MTS1200S bikes in Europe and just use them and very satisfied by the seat of the pants feeling.

Just want to hear from someone thats used a remapped ECU without being dyno'd, maybe they were just lucky.

Call it lucky or whatever but happy with the MTS and so far (knock on wood) not faced any of the little niggles some MTS owners complain about like brakes, fork noise (clunks), DES error, etc.

Ok, need to admit one problem that drove me nuts as I was getting sick and tired coating the nuts and bolts with chain lube on top of cotton buds after washing and polishing the MTS...
Replaced all possible bolts, nuts, screws with Pro-Bolt UK titanium bolts as the ones from the factory started to rust slightly (the allen head screws were the worst inside the heads).

I want mines to go like this...

Scored a brand-new full Akrapovic TI race system but not installed or tested as of today, not with me in China just yet and was told the bike might need dyno run or several for proper set-up. Shall find out one day, no rush over here....

My MTS needs the full desmo / belt service done sometime in May (depends on my upcoming travel and riding schedule) and will change over drive chain and sprockets to F15/R42 from the original 15/40 factory set-up.
Two sets of forged Marchesini rims (1x magnesium / 1x alloy) arrived as well end of last year in Shanghai and might get a set of TKC80 on the original Enkei alloy rims.... the never-ending story!

 

[johnnysneds]

Your response is exactly what I was hoping to hear, so I'm going for a re-program. It also tells me that I've more than likely got an issue elsewhere with the bike - I'm hoping its a spark plug issue coz thats exactly what it feels like - missing ever so slightly at neutral throttle but enough to be a pita and smooth when the powers on. Twin spark cylinders, so hopefully a dodgy/intermittent spark/lead from one of them. Theres so many different solutions for the same symptoms with Multistradas online it all becomes mind boggling, wish i could just put a different fricken jet in it - job done, and ride the bloody thing!Fatducs are going first as soon as I get home, I think I forced myself into thinking they had made a difference. Back to stock she goes and start from there I think.Agree with your gearing. When I did have a go of a stock PP set-up right, it did feel like it needed the gearing changing to deal with slower corners, fricken awesome none the less and the skyhook suspension felt amazing. One of the upgrades I have in mind too, but way of the mark at the moment - just trying to get the bitch running the way it should first. Have you removed the cat/flapper valve? Only engine mods ECU and pipe? Air Filter?

 

[TB-Racing]

Have you removed the cat/flapper valve? Only engine mods ECU and pipe? Air Filter?

With my 2012 MTS-PP, using custom remapped ECU's 99.99% of the time, full length Termignoni titanium muffler (never installed baffle) with custom stainless steel headers (open full race exhaust without any servo, flapper valve, cat "toaster" box), Airfilter (K+N Race)....

Yours is the Twin-Spark / Skyhook version? Cutting out your saying, while riding and under full load going fast?
Not trying to sound funny but could the traction control have something to do with it, settings or any sensor?

Yes, the gearing will be interesting as faster acceleration, loosing a bit of top speed but hey ~ how many times you max. out top speed in China of all places.

Mate, all this talk about the awesome MTS bikes, makes me want to ride my MTS but heading out of Shanghai today, not with a bike though.....

 

[Loop]

YES at Ducati Corse Race Department for almost 30 years and NO to MTS ECU's, for your info ~ you can convert any regular MTS - ECU to a "Race" ECU, just need to re-program and have necessary changes done to the software.

He would have been someone nice to know when i was flogging my old TT2 Pantah around East Coast Oz race tracks late 80's. Took a while to get to run at it's peak after building it from the ground up.
He might have been in the pits in '88 when World Superbikes first came to Sydney.

I was in their pits drooling over their 888's just a little.....ok a lot



Mick Doohan as a little known wildcard on a locally prepared FZ 750 won both races that day by the length of the straight and put himself on the radar of the European teams.

 

[johnnysneds]

Yours is the Twin-Spark / Skyhook version? Cutting out your saying, while riding and under full load going fast?
Not trying to sound funny but could the traction control have something to do with it, settings or any sensor?

Ah ok, your comment above didn't make sense to me at first, just downloaded the parts catalogue, the DS (dual spark) was re-introduced on the 2013 model. Mines only one plug per cylinder (same as yours) which makes life easier for fault finding. The Skyhook was on a friends PP that I had the pleasure of trying.

Never thought of the TC interfering, very unlikely and would have seen the TC light coming on if it was or an error. Worth keeping in mind though.

Just ordered a carb-tune thingy to balance my throttle bodies. After that resetting the TPS is on the list - manual indicates the use of the ridiculously priced DDS, there are other cheaper software options available I'm looking into now.






Sorry Ally this is all off topic with the thread, is there a way to move the Multistrada specific posts to somewhere else please?

 

[TB-Racing]

no experience with them and no affiliations but worthwhile to check out as tuneable and able to make up custom maps for ECU's without shipping the ECU back and forth....

DUCATI TUNEBOY Advance WiFi _Tuning _KIT + CC
Mitsubishi ECU's. This includes the TuneBoy Advance WiFi module and adapter cable, Flash software and one Cruise control key. This is everything you need to make custom maps and install Cruise control for your Ducati Multistrada 1200..... TuneBoy - Engine Management Systems

 

[TB-Racing]

Just ordered a carb-tune thingy to balance my throttle bodies. After that resetting the TPS is on the list - manual indicates the use of the ridiculously priced DDS, there are other cheaper software options available I'm looking into now.

Just wondering, any progress being made with the MTS problem?
Had my full desmo service (24000k) done earlier this week and my MTS runs sweet as ever, swapped chain and sprockets (15/42) and really great gearing in my personal opinion in comparison to stock (15/40).....