GPS coordinate formats: Explanations and conversions

jb2112

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Maybe this will help readers to understand what they are seeing on their units a little better. I hope I do not confuse anyone!

Basic explanation of geographical (spherical) coordinates
It is easier to show this on a sphere, but the equator splits the world into two halves: North and South. A similar circle between the North Pole and South Pole would split the world in half. It was decided years ago that the main circle of reference would go through Greenwich, England, so that arc of a circle, or meridian, is called the Greenwich Meridian. This is the basis of units for East and West coordinates.

Latitude: North or South from the Equator with a maximum of 90 degrees (The North Pole!).
Longitude: East or West from the Greenwich Meridian with a maximum of 180 degrees. The opposite side of the earth from the Greenwich Meridian is the International Date Line and I won't even begin to discuss that here!

When you are reading a Lat and Long position you can actually visualize a line running north/south meeting a line running east/west. It helps to see this on a map, maybe this link can help: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Latit ... _Earth.svg

Converting GPS coordinates manually:
The 3 formats I see on my Garmin are
ddd.ddddd°, ddd° mm.mmm' and ddd° mm' ss.s".

Since we are using geographical coordinates these are based on a circular measurement system: Degrees (°), minutes(') and seconds(").

A circle consists of 360 degrees. On the earth you can see if you follow a meridian you would enter four "areas" each contain 90 degrees of latitude. Longitude splits the world east/west into two 180 degree "areas."

One degree contains 60 minutes. One minute contains 60 seconds. This may be confusing as they are also time measurements, but you have to start thinking distance measurements now! (I think they are actually angular measurements, but for our discussion, please think LENGTH!)
Note: When you are reading formats ddd° mm.mmm' and ddd° mm' ss.s" always remember that, by definition, the minutes and seconds cannot be 60 or higher. Why? They have now become a higher unit of measurement raised by one.

Conversion 1: ddd° mm' ss.s" to ddd° mm.mmm'. Here you are converting the seconds, or ss.s, into decimal format and appending it to the minutes.
Example: N 20° 19' 15.5" becomes N 20° 19.258'.
How? 15.5" / 60 = .258

Conversion 2: ddd° mm.mmm' to ddd.ddddd° Now you do the same conversion to the minutes area which will result in a full decimal appendum to the degrees of latitude or longitude.
Example with same units from above: N 20° 19.258' becomes N 20.32097°.
How? 19.258' / 60 = .32097

That should do it. I hope I got this all right. It has been a long time since university.
If you get a handle on how to do the conversions you should get a better feel for your GPS, navigating (or navi-guessing!) , and the world in general!

Good luck! JB
 
That's a great explanation JB, being from a nautical background, i still find it difficult to get away from using the minutes format, but have surrendered to using decimal (ddd.ddddd°).


It would actually be good if everyone shifted to the decimal format for overland navigation (ddd.ddddd°), then we would keep having to go into settings on the GPS and change the position format.
 
KTMphil said:
It would actually be good if everyone shifted to the decimal format for overland navigation (ddd.ddddd°)
Totally agree. I work professionally with GPS and use dd°mm' ss.sss", dd°mm.mmm' and grid most of the time, but I find ddd.ddddd° the most practical for personal use. It's so much simpler to tell someone, who might not be so used to working with GPS, over the phone, for instance. No need to worry about what minutes and seconds mean, and I think for most people it's more intuitive as well.
 
Since I have a long military background, I'm used to using MGRS (Military Grid Referencing System), which for land based navigation is by far the most logical one, since it measures in meters.
Now I do maritime security, I have had to get used to the degrees, minutes thing.

If only they could agree on one system for all maps, wouldn't it be nice?

Good thing is, you just punch in coordinates on the GPS in whatever format they come in and then hit Go To.
Ahh, technology saves the day..
 
KTMphil said:
That's a great explanation JB, being from a nautical background, i still find it difficult to get away from using the minutes format, but have surrendered to using decimal (ddd.ddddd°).


It would actually be good if everyone shifted to the decimal format for overland navigation (ddd.ddddd°), then we would keep having to go into settings on the GPS and change the position format.

Similar here, being from an engineering background. Being taught old school & working in a precision environment, degree, minute & second was always the way.
I can do the rough calcs in my head to convert it to decimal anyway so either works for me.
 
Merchant navy deck officer here so I am comfortable with them all, but I surely prefer degrees.decimal° (ddd.ddddd°) for a few reasons:
Easy to input.
Easy to copy and paste into/from Google Earth, etc. Most of these web sites or programs allow you to save this into Preferences.
Easy for the novice.
 
Oh, I was at village entrance and saw a sign that had what I believe to be the village measurements in UTM coordinates. Now THAT IS another subject!
 
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