5 foreign registered bikes Myanmar parliament in Naypyidaw (the capital)

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Myanmar- looks like its officially open to foreign motorcycles now!


5 big bikes parked in front of the Myanmar parliament in Naypyidaw (the capital) - a historic moment... and quite some fun!


Sukie - one of the pioneers, nice job.


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Today we worked on the bikes: oil change, air filters changed, valves adjusted, etc.... getting ready for Myanmar.... so exciting!

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Getting in at the Mae Sot border -


Arrived in Mae Sot - ready to cross the border to Myanmar tomorrow.....



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Sukie- After we got out of the Mon State the police no longer escorted us, must be safe now. Great fun riding around the sand trails of Bagan with Pagodas popping up everywhere. Ytd Aung San Suu Kyi was campaigning in a town we rode pass an hr before we got there, we miss seeing The Lady by an hr



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Can anyone involved elaborate on the application process.. How long winded it was, and if non celeb status folks without any specific contact and clout are likely to get it.
 
Heike & Flippo (https://www.facebook.com/2LiveTheDream) have been staying in Bangkok with Joerg Waldmann (https://www.facebook.com/joerg.waldmann.9), who has a BMW F 800gs. Joerg is involved in a travel business in Bangkok and was able to arrange the tour into Myanmar. Sukie & Dusit who both ride big KTM's went with them.

I think they are still in Myanmar currently, but you could contact Joerg and get some information.
 
Heike & Flippo (https://www.facebook.com/2LiveTheDream) have been staying in Bangkok with Joerg Waldmann (https://www.facebook.com/joerg.waldmann.9), who has a BMW F 800gs. Joerg is involved in a travel business in Bangkok and was able to arrange the tour into Myanmar. Sukie & Dusit who both ride big KTM's went with them.

I think they are still in Myanmar currently, but you could contact Joerg and get some information.

They are still in Myanmar. Here is there schedule:

7. December: Bangkok – Mae Sot (480 km)
8. December: Mae Sot – Kyaiktiyo - (Golden Rock, 296 km)
9. December: Kyaiktiyo – Naypyidaw (363 km)
10. December: Naypyidaw – Bagan ( 298 km)
11. December: Bagan – Pyay (386 km)
14. December: Pyay – Bago (ca. 320 km)
15. December: Bago – Mae Sot (384 km)
16. December: Mae Sot – Bangkok (480 km)

The whole organization took 4 months and took a lot of negotiations and only at the last moment they got the OK and all along they did not know if they would have to be accompanied the whole time and if they would be allowed to deviate from their intended schedule (source: Die Myanmar Mission – mit Big Bikes nach Burma)
 
It looks like this entry in Myanmar with foreign bikes will be associated with a Touratech "DVD" production, there might not be much information floating around the net on how they were able to make this possible.



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Translated

Die Myanmar Mission – mit Big Bikes nach Burma


Myanmar / Burma for many motorcycle travelers an as yet unfulfilled dream - so far it has not managed to tour the country with a big motorcycle, even though many have tried. Now this will change though! Filippo and Dr. Heike Fania together with four other motorcyclists (two Thais KTM, one of the German and an Englishman, each in BMWs) be the first to travel the country with their big bikes (BMW 1150 GS and 650 GS). Before starting on the 7th December the troops uncovered at Touratech Thailand still with the necessary accessories.

Preparations for the trip have been running for more than four months - an eternal back and forth with the official authorities in Burma. Long time it looked as if it would not work. But, as by the Sensation: The six-member group may enter with their machines to Myanmar. "Our dream comes true - and sure that message will wrap it as a sensation, because until now it was just but still one of the last blank spots on the map of the motorcycle travelers' look forward Filippo and his wife Heike.

One of the passengers is Kamol Sukosol Clapp, a celebrity in Thailand. His mother Kamala sogr has cult status. Sukie is a musician, created their own record label and had besides his own TV show. Above all, the 42-year old is a motorcycle maniac and almost no weekend goes by without it being on the road with his KTM somewhere.

As an expat living in Thailand and motorcycle enthusiast takes Jörg Waldmann, who organized the whole project, regularly motorcycle tours. By all possible and impossible parts of Thailand and Southeast Asia His career as a product manager in a travel agency in Bangkok allows him many a time, to combine hobby and profession, and he explored the region in the most pleasant way - GS with its F 800th The biggest, most interesting and most original country of the region, Mynamar should, but it seems to remain closed.

But then, as suddenly as Myanmar opens unexpectedly: "After the serious riots a few years ago you did not believe in it anymore," says Jörg. "And now it seems as if the authorities really mean seriously with the democratic process. Light at end of tunnel for the population? And the country will also open its physical limits? "

Directions and Outlook:
7th December: Bangkok - Mae Sot (480 km)
8th December: Mae Sot - Kyaiktiyo - (Golden Rock, 296 miles)
9th December: Kyaiktiyo - Naypyidaw (363 miles)
10th December: Naypyidaw - Bagan (298 km)
11th December: Bagan - Pyay (386 km)
14th December: Pyay - Bago (about 320 km)
15th December: Bago - Mae Sot (384 km)
16th December: Mae Sot - Bangkok (480 km)

What is so sober reading is in fact a challenge. "We know neither the lines nor the conditions on the road, as we embark on the" stress Heike and Filippo. "It does, however, the mission (for real enduro) really interesting. We will meet thousands incredulous faces wherever we go. "

The "Mission Myanmar" is a unique opportunity and provides material for a series: "Who do we accompany such" wonder Heike and Filippo. "Is there still the spies, known for Myanmar? We are shaded? We can sometimes go beyond the planned routes? How is the communication with the officials? And as the meeting in the new capital of the politicians who made this mission is "A real journey into the unknown - it will be interesting ...
 
Hi everybody,

My huspand and I, we have been amongst these 5 riders in Myanmar, and we are the couple on the Touratech photo. Before further rumours spread, we should clarify:
There is not Touratech DVD in production - we just met at the TT shop in BKK, because they are supporting us a little bit on our world trip, and they took the chance to make it into a news.
This trip was organized by our friend Joerg in Bangkok, and he did it completely on his own initiative, and it was not supported by the industry.

We have published a blog post on our website about it also on our homepage: Myanmar by Motorcycle | 2 Live The Dream

It was a great and very intense trip, we collected so many new impressions, and really enjoyed it.... We will post more photos and a report soon on our website. In the meantime you can see som photos on our facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/2LiveTheDream
 
H & F - Congratulations on this monumental achievement, this is quite something.



Hi everybody,

My huspand and I, we have been amongst these 5 riders in Myanmar, and we are the couple on the Touratech photo. Before further rumours spread, we should clarify:
There is not Touratech DVD in production - we just met at the TT shop in BKK, because they are supporting us a little bit on our world trip, and they took the chance to make it into a news.
This trip was organized by our friend Joerg in Bangkok, and he did it completely on his own initiative, and it was not supported by the industry.

We have published a blog post on our website about it also on our homepage: Myanmar by Motorcycle | 2 Live The Dream

It was a great and very intense trip, we collected so many new impressions, and really enjoyed it.... We will post more photos and a report soon on our website. In the meantime you can see som photos on our facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/2LiveTheDream
 
Copied from Heike and Filippo's blog (hope they don't mind) - Myanmar by Motorcycle | 2 Live The Dream

For us a dream has come true: we have travelled on our motorcycles through Myanmar (or maybe to some it is more familiar as Burma). Until now, it was not possible to enter the country officially with a foreign motorcycle. Together with three other motorcyclists we were now the first group that was officially allowed to travel this beautiful country.

Unfortunately, it is still not possible to travel individually and on your own. We were accompanied by a car with driver and two guides; one of them was from the government. Without them we would not have got the permission to travel through Myanmar. But both guides were actually quite relaxed, and during the tour the control eased, so they even let us go on our own. However, we had to stay on the planned route, and we had to stay at hotels that were arranged in advance.
Preparations, negotiation with the officials in Myanmar and the paperwork took four months in total. Our friend Joerg from Bangkok did a tremendous job and has invested a lot of time to make this trip possible - all in his free time! And from what we heard afterwards, the trio was discussed and approved even by the ministry of Myanmar.
But still, only one week before we left it still looked like it was not going to happen. Then we suddenly got the OK from the officials, and only a few days later we were standing at the border to Myanmar. In the meantime, we had to hurry to get everything ready, to sort our equipment and to get the visas from the Myanmar embassy.
In total we were seven days / six nights in the country. We crossed the border at Mae Sot in Thailand, both on the way in and on the way out. In between lay more than 2300 kilometres through Myanmar.
And the whole trip was not cheap. We had to pay for permissions, bribes, visas, guides, sometimes police escort, the car, and hotels, which were not the cheapest. But it was definitely worth everything! We had the chance to visit Myanmar at a stage where in most areas it is still not influenced by tourism.
Maybe, it will soon also be possible to cross the country from India to Thailand, or vice versa; but probably only with guides and a pre-planned route as well. However, a dream for many overlanders would come true - and it would not be necessary anymore to ship the bikes from Kathmandu to Bangkok, which also costs a lot of money.
If you are interested in further details, and you want to travel Myanmar by motorcycle as well, then you can contact our friend Joerg Waldmann in Bangkok by e-mail: djosmann (at) gmail. com
 
Thanks for posting that - Saw their picture of the Golden Mount (picture no. 19 I think)

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and wondered if Thailand is going to put up a replica up at Wat Phrathat Doi Mon Ching (N19.54545 E98.97034) on road 1178 as they were building something and the pictures they showed on the building site look very much like the Golden Mount in Myanmar.

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(see my trip report at http://www.rideasia.net/motorcycle-...th-temples-border-crossings-other-things.html)
 
I've been told a group of Singapore rider's are about to enter Myanmar for 10 days, so this will be a second group of rider's. They're not in yet, I'll get an update when and if they do.



The morning of the 7th January, 2013 they are supposed to cross into Myanmar.
 
Cherie, a lady from Singapore who's on the ride into Myanmar, crossing the Mae Sot border tomorrow (7th Jan, 2013), directed me to this about their trip.


Looks like a similar route to the first group that went in a few weeks ago, but they are headed for Mandalay too.


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"A few of my friends have been planning on a ride to Myanmar since early 2012. After many talks with the embassy officials here in Singapore and after a few rejections of the proposed routes, everything was finalized in Dec 2012. We will be riding in Myanmar from 7 Jan to 18 Jan 2013. There will be a police escort throughout our journey. We will be going in through the border at Mae Sot in Thailand. Our first stop will be at Pa'an. Then on to Kyaikhto - Naypyidaw - Mandalay - Bagan - Pyay - Yangon - Bago - Mawlamyine and back to Mae Sot.

11 Bikers for this ride.

1. Loh - BMW R1200GSA
2. Eric- BMW R1200GSA
3. Chris - BMW R1200GSA
4. Cliff - BMW R1200GSA
5 James - BMW R1200GSA
6 Terry - BMW R1200GS
7 Steve - BMW R1200GS
8 David - BMW R1200GS
9 Ivan - BMW R1200R
10 Cherie - Kawasaki 650 Versys
11.Shaji - Kawasaki GTR1400.

Ivan was the first one to leave. He left on the 26th, brought his bike to Bangkok and flew. He will fly again to Bangkok on the 5th of Jan, ride his bike to Mae Sot and meet us there on the 6th.

Cherie left on the 28th . She hung out in Malaysia over the weekend and New Year. She crossed into Thailand yesterday and is resting at Hua Hin.

Loh, Chris, Eric and Terry left this morning and have stopped at Ipoh, Malaysia for the night. They will proceed to Hatyai, Thailand tomorrow".
 
I've been told by a rider in the second group, that will be crossing the Mae Sot, Thailand / Myawaddy, Myanmar international border crossing this morning, that the Myanmar component of their trip has cost in total about 2,000 Singapore Dollars (USD$ 1,620) FOR ONE RIDER AND BIKE . That includes Myanmar permits, guides, hotels, police escorts & doesn't include fuel.
 
I've been told by a rider in the second group, that will be crossing the Mae Sot, Thailand / Myawaddy, Myanmar international border crossing this morning, that the Myanmar component of their trip has cost in total about 2,000 Singapore Dollars (USD$ 1,620) FOR ONE RIDER AND BIKE . That includes Myanmar permits, guides, hotels, police escorts & doesn't include fuel.

That works out at about 200 USD per day per person - not cheap but hotels in Myanmar are not cheap either so (if I remember it correctly, R1100R paid 350 USD for 1 night in a hotel in Yangon while awaiting onward transport to Singapore after his accident) so it is not to bad. Probably depends on the group size (the larger the group, the cheaper it will be per person) but large groups may be more difficult to manage and personally I would not like to be in a large group due to safety isses riding in a large group, etc.
 
The second group are in Myanmar, the crossed at Mae Sot successfully this morning, I received these messages from one of the riders:


"just arrived in hpa an! omg the roads are unbelievable

4hrs 50km



had some trouble at thai customs cos sadao side isnt communicating with them"


"the mountain road in though... is the stuff of some madman's nightmare"



"we are in. unbelievable. unfeckinbelievable"


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"my god... the things i've put this bike through today. 50km complete mountain detritus, 4 hours".



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"no photos can describe the journey. one word- Punishing.


just got to hpa'an after a harrowing night-ride: 8hrs of 150km moon-surface roads, constantly blinded by dust, and i have all the grime of the universe in my face. my hands are still shaking".



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Excellent news.
Even for a pauper such as I this seems to be very good value for money considering what one gets.
 
They had a feature in the Life section of Bangkok Post this morning:

Seven days in Myanmar

An escape into an adventurous breathtaking time capsule



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Sukie told me they were going to print he's piece on the trip


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"Bagan is one of Myanmar's top attractions, with thousands of pagodas scattered across a desert-like landscape _ think Angkor Wat on sand. If you're into ancient cities, enjoy reminiscing about living in the past, this is the place to be. Furthermore, what made Bagan a special place for me were the thousand or so pagodas linked by a maze of sandy dirt roads, this was a dirt biker's playground. Honestly, we didn't want to leave and could have spent the entire day just riding around this beautiful ancient city. By mid-afternoon we were off to Pyay, 386km away. On the way we rode through a town where I saw Aung San Suu Kyi campaign posters everywhere. Everyone I came across in Myanmar loves her. The people there told us The Lady had just left _ an hour ago. We missed seeing her in person, I couldn't believe it. We arrived in Pyay disappointed and had an early evening."
 
A big thank you to Sukie for giving us permission to post his article.



Seven days in Myanmar

An escape into an adventurous breathtaking time capsule








Myanmar is one country no motorcyclist could ever get into before so when someone asked if I would like to ride there, I jumped at the opportunity. We'd be the first bikers to cross the border and do a full tour of the country.
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The riders in the capital Nay Pyi Taw.

Last month, on Dec 6, I arrived in Mae Sot, Tak, and met up with the other riders on this tour _ Dusit, Joerg, Heike and Filippo. The following morning the five of us got to the Mae Sot-Myawadi border crossing at 7am and, thanks to the permission we had obtained beforehand, made it into Myanmar within an hour. In Myawadi we spent half an hour acquainting ourselves, and off we were on the first leg of our journey to Kyaikto, 296km away.
My first taste of Myanmar was riding 60km through the mountains _ the road condition was horrendous, the scenery magnificent, just the way I like it. However, what made this ride different from others was policemen armed with AK-47s leading us. In Kayin state, fighting still breaks out occasionally between government troops and rebel groups _ and every time I was about to overtake the police would yell at me to stay behind.
We got to the bottom of a mountain and, to my surprise, I saw rows and rows of trucks and cars waiting to go up, and I asked our guide what was going on. He told me this road is one-way only and traffic alternates _ up and down _ on a daily basis. On this particular day it was going up so the police had closed down the entire mountain for us. I couldn't believe it and didn't know what to think. Were the police there to protect us, spy on us or give us the VIP treatment? To this day, I still don't know. By the time we arrived in Kyaikto I was dead tired, had a quick dinner and was in bed by 10pm.
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Myanmar kids pose for the camera.

Next morning we got up early and headed for Mt Kyaiktiyo, also known as The Golden Rock, one of Myanmar's most sacred places.
The problem was we came on a national holiday and there were at least 50,000 people looking to go up this holy mountain. The only way up was to walk (forget that) or get on government trucks that won't leave unless they're full to the brim. To see a truck come to a halt and thousands of people clamouring to get on was a sight _ I had to push people away, they kept knocking my glasses off.
Nevertheless, it was worth getting to the top and seeing thousands upon thousands of Burmese up among the clouds showing off their faith in Buddhism, it was quite a magnificent scene. We left Mt Kyaiktiyo around 3pm and headed for the capital Nay Pyi Taw some 363km away.
So far in Myanmar we'd been riding on broken down roads with potholes, one-lane dirt and gravel roads. Suddenly entering the capital Nay Pyi Taw we found ourselves on an eight-lane motorway. It was like riding into a dream, and the whole capital reminded me of a giant Disneyland _ a total contrast to the rest of the country. Hotels, shopping malls, government buildings and restaurants _ you name it. However, the city was empty with only us on the road _ it felt surreal, tucked away inside its own cocoon. We spent the following day taking photos at various landmarks and then left for Bagan, 300km away.
Bagan is one of Myanmar's top attractions, with thousands of pagodas scattered across a desert-like landscape _ think Angkor Wat on sand. If you're into ancient cities, enjoy reminiscing about living in the past, this is the place to be. Furthermore, what made Bagan a special place for me were the thousand or so pagodas linked by a maze of sandy dirt roads, this was a dirt biker's playground. Honestly, we didn't want to leave and could have spent the entire day just riding around this beautiful ancient city. By mid-afternoon we were off to Pyay, 386km away. On the way we rode through a town where I saw Aung San Suu Kyi campaign posters everywhere. Everyone I came across in Myanmar loves her. The people there told us The Lady had just left _ an hour ago. We missed seeing her in person, I couldn't believe it. We arrived in Pyay disappointed and had an early evening.
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A beautiful mosque in Mawlamyine.

Next morning we left for Bago, 320km away. Bago, a former capital, is known for its religious sites. The Shwethalyaung Buddha, Four Figures Paya and Mahazedi Paya are just a few of the famous sites of Bago. Moreover, it is one of the most popular destinations for Thai tourists because during the 16th century famed King Naresuan of Thailand was in residence here.
Next day we rode 280km south to Mawlamyine, our last destination. Mawlamyine is a relaxing seaside town filled with mosques and colonial-era buildings. Similar to Bagan, the place takes you back to the mid-19th century during the British rule there. It was the perfect spot for a relaxing last night in Myanmar.
On the last day we left Mawlamyine and took a shortcut to get to the Thai border 250km away. This shortcut turned out to be my favourite. It was a dirt road that connected one village to another with rice fields in between. Eventually it led to the same mountain road the police had closed down for us a week earlier when we came through; however, heading home we shared it with hundreds of truckers and drivers going in the same direction.
Imagine Bangkok gridlock on a narrow dirt road going up a steep mountain. Even on a motorcycle it was difficult weaving through the traffic. We slowly made it to the front of the traffic and had the last 30km or so to ourselves. I took my time to enjoy this last stretch to the border before crossing back into Thailand.
We arrived in Myawadi at 4pm. I quickly said bye and thanked everyone, did the necessary paperwork, and rode over the Friendship Bridge back into Thailand. From Mae Sot I rode 500km straight to Bangkok, arriving home around 10pm, exhausted but happy and fulfilled.
Looking back I had a wonderful adventurous week in Myanmar. I feel blessed to have been part of a pioneering group of riders who got to see Myanmar before it really starts to open up and welcome more and more visitors.
In hindsight, I rode into Myanmar with an image of a country that was locked in a time capsule, isolated for 50 years. A week later I left feeling it's a country on the verge of change about to open up. However, the strongest imprint it made upon me was its people.
Everywhere we went the people were friendly and kind, always willing to give a helping hand. With the AEC (Asean Economic Community) approaching in two years' time I really hope the opening up of Myanmar will not change this character of their people. I would love to come back in a few years' time and still feel like I were escaping into a mysterious, adventurous time capsule.
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Riding Nay Pyi Taw’s eight-lane motorway.

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Sunrise at Bagan.

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There's a 3rd group headed into Myanmar on the 15th January, 2013. Armin Schoch has done all the heavy lifting getting it arranged, there's a few local riders that have piggy-backed off his arrangements and are tagging along.
 
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